Nov.23
2009
Four Hands Guitar Pwnd...
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No particular reason to post this, except that it is fairly (read: extremely) crafty. I always like seeing people pull off high-risk performances of any sort; gives me the warm fuzzies.

Which brings up an interesting point: how much risk are you willing to take in your performances? Speaking strictly for myself, I try to keep the risk:reward ratio at about unity, so I'm not gonna go off half-cocked trying something that I'm not certain I can pull off. Perhaps I'm a lesser musician for it, as I think that the personal benefits (as opposed to the benefits you give the audience) from performing something live that is right on the bleeding edge of your abilities is probably the most rewarding.

Assuming, of course, that you don't fuck up.

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When you talk about risk, are you talking about technique (as in, "I'm going to try to play this faster than I'm comfortable doing") or improvisation (as in, "I don't know which notes are going to be in this run")?

posted November 23, 2009 by theshamblers
Improv doesn't work that way in my opinion. I can't speak for others, but I _never_ know what I'm gonna do when I improv. I mean risk as "I'm afraid to play this because it's at the limit of my technical abilities, and I might fuck up, and I don't like to fuck up in front of an audience."

-CR

posted November 23, 2009 by Chris Randall

Hey Chris - did you ever see Andreas Kapsalis while you were in Chicago?

This guy does with 2 hands what a lot people would need 4 to pull off - simply amazing technique especiall when his right hand is playing higher up the neck than his left -

see link [www.youtube.com]

posted November 23, 2009 by bcomnes

How do you know it's on the bleeding edge of their abilities? They could have rehearsed this to the point of being able to do it in their sleep.

posted November 23, 2009 by Keith Handy
Well, that'd be necessary in any event, but she fucks up pretty plainly a couple times towards the end, and otherwise, she's no slouch when it comes to flamenco and/or classical styles, as a quick visit to their website would show.

So, to answer your question, that's how.

-CR

posted November 23, 2009 by Chris Randall

cool video. Four hands guitar, from what I know, was popularized by the Assad brothers, a pair of amazing guitar players...

link [www.youtube.com]

their album of baroque music (especially the compositions by rameau!) is really good, if you want to hear technically amazing, but very expressive guitar playing

link [www.amazon.com]


posted November 23, 2009 by ricemutt

i was just the other day reading a blog about this particular piece: link [musicologymatters.blogspot.com]

as for performance, my current band is actually my first band where i am performing music i helped to write. i have noticed that i have been consistently writing guitar parts just a little out of my range, something that was initially a bit frustrating, but is, as you might imagine, actually a great way to improve.

(the caveat here of course is that i have been quite a bit out of practice on guitar for quite a while, so the just-slightly-too-difficult parts are truly not *that* difficult. :D )

posted November 23, 2009 by dj empirical

God please help me refrain from telling a dirty brazilian joke!



posted November 23, 2009 by inteliko

There is a british string quartet on youtube, who play ravel's bolero on one cello. That's four musicians on one instrument!

But I don't think that's in the "risk" category, more "circus act".

posted November 23, 2009 by VicDiesel

I think things are only felt to be risks when you're operating from a fear-based mind space. And that when you're stretching out out of a genuine and spontaneous desire to find something new, or to manifest some musical idea in your head you probably won't be worried about pulling something off, or whether it's within your supposed range of your abilities.

I think these experiences are the ones where you find you can broaden your abilities naturally, when you break through any fears or ideas of where you're at (restrictive illusions), get out of your own way and just go for it from a good vibe. As long as there is an element of worry about the way one is being perceived (ego), making mistakes, or whether what you're doing is sufficiently displaying this illusory range of abilities the experience for the audience and performer will always be a bit of a shortcoming.

Sure you could just approach it from a superficial point and show off, and you and the audience might get something from it but you probably get more when it's about something other than yourself and the mere demonstration of skills.

posted November 23, 2009 by paco

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