Feb.9
2008
The 10 Commandments Of Grindhouse...
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So, there are at least seven distinct forms of house music that I can discern. Unfortunately, none of them does what I want right now, so I've taken it upon myself to invent a new sub-genre, which we will call Grindhouse. The problem with making your own genre is that it isn't actually a genre until more than one artist does it. As long as it's just one person or group, it is only "quirky" or "eccentric," or the worst of all, "unclassifiable."

Like any sub-genre, our new style needs a set of rules, so a particular song or artist can be classified as such. In that light, I propose the following Ten Commandments Of Grindhouse, a paradigm set for our new genre. I intend this genre to be entirely open source, so the Commandments may be altered as a result of discussion, here or elsewhere. But we have to start somewhere, right? In that light, here's what I submit:

1: Thou Shalt Have A Monster Foot. Of course, the root of all house music is a 909 kick in a four-on-the-floor pattern. Grindhouse, since it is a sub-set of house, will have the same. However, our foot will be large. It should dominate the track entirely. In that light, the foot should have a healthy dose of plate reverb. But it needs to start life as a 909-flavored kick; that really goes without saying.

2: Thou Shalt Eschew Chord Progressions. Pick a fucking note and hammer that shit in to the ground. Chord progressions are for trance, and we hates trance.

3: Thou Shalt Lovingly Embrace Distortion. Grindhouse should be HARD. Think of it as powernoise with a more defined beat and, like, music and stuff. The square wave is your friend.

4: Thou Shalt Beat An MC About The Head And Shoulders With A Blunt Object. We are of the opinion that two things are true: a DJ knows how to spin records and the crowd knows how to dance. We don't need some meth-addled MC Cul-De-Sac up on the stage shouting at people, and asking for rewinds, and all that bullshit.

5: Thou Shalt Move At A Punk-Rock Clip. Grindhouse, because it is an aggressive form of house, shall be on the speedy side. Your happy place is between 140 and 150. You dip below 138 at your peril.

6: Thou Shalt Smash Thy VCR. Movie samples are so 1989. They shall be avoided like the plague that they are.

7: Thou Shalt Place Thy Bass In The Driver Seat. In Grindhouse, our bassline and our melody are the same motherfucking thing. Stack for attack.

8: Thou Shalt Glitch Thy Percussion. If it isn't a foot, it gets all fucked up. Get your favorite beat mangler and put it on every track.

9: Thou Shalt Restrain Thyself From 16-measure Snare Rolls. Grindhouse has sudden transitions. If someone wants gradual dynamics so they know when to spin their glowsticks and raise their arms, might we point them towards Ibeza?

10: Thou Shalt Break It Down. The breakdowns in Grindhouse, an essentially pad-free environment, shall be rhythmic in nature, with the glitchy beats.

There we have it. I'm essentially describing a punkier, glitchier form of house that is hard as hell. The next step is for the Analog Industries community to discuss and fine-tune our ruleset, and then make and release a comp. Obviously, a little audio example would help, so here 'tis, an intro and a couple go-rounds of a main section. In it, the major points above are described, I think. Discuss.

EDIT: I've made changes to the MP3 to take in to account the incredibly helpful suggestions offered forth. Here 'tis. I made the lead/bass more grindish, less ravish, and the offending 909 hat has been bit-reduced in to submission.

Note that, despite evidence to the contrary, I wasn't saying "hey, here's a grandiose idea that will change the face of electronic music." Rather, it was an attempt at ironic humor. I guess I should have put the sarcasm tags around the whole post. My thinking was that most electronic music genres spring from thin air, via someone coming up with an interesting idea that is somewhat outside a genre, and about 500 other producers trying to cash in on the sound. I thought it would be funny to create a ready-made genre, with malice aforethought. Perhaps I should have said that in the beginning of the post, as exactly two responders have got the joke. I have to say that, for most of you, subtlety is not your strong suit.

Comments:
I know it's a joke and everything but this is one sub-genre (not even my general genre or sub-genre I might add) that at I think I might just be able to get behind. Hell, I really don't even like House that much. This, however, can re-release my industrial side but bring my DnB side right along with it. I shudder to think of any other sides lurking that might trickle out...

Long time reader, first time poster btw. Greetings all!

-butter

posted February 11, 2008 by butter

this is absolutely awesome :D

what about the amen? allowed?

also, i was thinking... the 303 lines could always be reversed, that could be the trademark... but on the other hand, that would mean a gryndhouse track should always have a 303 and it would make it acid gryndhouse...

posted February 11, 2008 by kokoon

OK here's a quick (rough) shot at one, just so I can claim to be in "at the start of the scene", I'm updating my resume even as I speak - tho at post #63 I think I might be a bit late to be "a founding member of.." (damn).

Also I think it's important to pick a good name (machinepop is some german guy who I think is taking his career a bit more seriously than I am) if I'm gonna be on wikipedia...how about Snorkel Dog? Yep that's just stupid enough to work, I'll go with that...

link [www.machinepop.com]

posted February 11, 2008 by MachinePop

ah, it looks like "the man" can't handle this new genre, which just goes to show how powerful it is.

from the Grindhouse Wikipedia page.

>This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: This article or other page provides no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. It is patent nonsense (CSD G1).

Bah, trying to keep us kids down!
Grindhouse IS unsalvageably incoherent, that's one of its merits :)

posted February 11, 2008 by Angstrom

Damn, I was just in the process of making a few updates. GrindHouse, banned by Wikipedia!

Here's the last copy of the Wiki markup text that I got before they killed it:

'''GrindHouse''' (also known as Grindhouse, Gryndhouse, Greindhaus, Griiindhouse) is a type of electronic [[house music]] that conforms to a set of rules known as The Ten Commandments of GrindHouse. The style is characterized by the absence of harmonic progression, a kick drum placed on both the downbeat and backbeat of every measure, the application of reverberation on the kick drum, heavily processed percussion, the absence of non-musical phrases or samples, and monotonic bass lines which also serve as the music's only melodic content. The style was developed in rural [[Oregon]] by electronic musician [[Chris Randall]].

== History ==
A late development on progressive house music, GrindHouse grew out of the club scene of rural Oregon. Early forms of GrindHouse were occasionally referred to as [[ElkLodge]] music, in reference to the private Elk's Club located near Mill City, Oregon.

== Important Figures in GrindHouse Music ==
* [[Chris Randall]]
* Bounte
* shamann
* Angstrom (Eurogrind)

== The Ten Commandments of GrindHouse ==
As outlined by [[Chris Randall]] on his Analog Industries blog:

<blockquote>
1: '''Thou Shalt Have A Monster Foot'''. Of course, the root of all house music is a 909 kick in a four-on-the-floor pattern. GrindHouse, since it is a sub-set of house, will have the same. However, our foot will be large. It should dominate the track entirely. In that light, the foot should have a healthy dose of plate reverb. But it needs to start life as a 909-flavored kick; that really goes without saying.<br />
2: '''Thou Shalt Eschew Chord Progressions'''. Pick a fucking note and hammer that shit in to the ground. Chord progressions are for trance, and we hates trance.<br />
3: '''Thou Shalt Lovingly Embrace Distortion'''. GrindHouse should be HARD. Think of it as powernoise with a more defined beat and, like, music and stuff. The square wave is your friend.<br />
4: '''Thou Shalt Beat An MC About The Head And Shoulders With A Blunt Object'''. We are of the opinion that two things are true: a DJ knows how to spin records and the crowd knows how to dance. We don't need some meth-addled MC Cul-De-Sac up on the stage shouting at people, and asking for rewinds, and all that bullshit.<br />
5: '''Thou Shalt Move At A Punk-Rock Clip'''. GrindHouse, because it is an aggressive form of house, shall be on the speedy side. Your happy place is between 140 and 150. You dip below 138 at your peril.<br />
6: '''Thou Shalt Smash Thy VCR'''. Movie samples are so 1989. They shall be avoided like the plague that they are.<br />
7: '''Thou Shalt Place Thy Bass In The Driver Seat'''. In GrindHouse, our bassline and our melody are the same motherfucking thing. Stack for attack.<br />
8: '''Thou Shalt Glitch Thy Percussion'''. If it isn't a foot, it gets all fucked up. Get your favorite beat mangler and put it on every track.<br />
9: '''Thou Shalt Restrain Thyself From 16-measure Snare Rolls'''. GrindHouse has sudden transitions. If someone wants gradual dynamics so they know when to spin their glowsticks and raise their arms, might we point them towards Ibeza?<br />
10: '''Thou Shalt Break It Down'''. The breakdowns in GrindHouse, an essentially pad-free environment, shall be rhythmic in nature, with the glitchy beats.<br /></blockquote>

== Sub-Genres ==
* [[Grind Dub]]
* [[Grindtronica]]
* [[Eurogrind]]
* [[ElkLodge]]

== External Links ==
* [link [www.analogindustries.com]]Analog Industries.
* [link [www.analogindustries.com]] The first example of GrindHouse music by [[Chris Randall]].
* [link [www.dunakin.com]] Maximal GrindHouse example from Bounte.
* [link [www.sighup.ca]] Minimal GrindHouse example by shamann.

[[Category:House music| ]]
[[Category:Electronic music genres]]
[[Category:Dance music]]
[[Category:Music genres]]
[[Category:Oregon culture]]
[[Category:Subcultures]]


posted February 11, 2008 by shamann

* 13:57, 11 February 2008 Pegasus (Talk | contribs) deleted "Grindhouse (music style)" ‎ (CSD A7: Article about subject that does not assert significance.)


posted February 11, 2008 by Heretic_D™
I'm going to try to work with the Wiki collective and see if we can't make it work.

Frankly, if they're going to delete Grindhouse, they need to basically delete every other subgenre of House.

posted February 11, 2008 by Heretic_D™

That's a fact.

-CR

posted February 11, 2008 by Chris Randall

Sounds like Hard House. Which is one of those annoying beyond-the-pale sub-genres of house, along with Progressive House.

What you've described though sounds a lot like Ghetto House without the guy yelling 'lick my dick' in it.

posted February 11, 2008 by chaircrusher

Looking back on that, it's the emphasis on rural Oregon that does it for me.

I wonder how they asserted the significance of Skweee? Maybe someone needs to petition CDM to do a write up about it, so that there's a corroborative source?

posted February 11, 2008 by shamann

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