Jan.19
2008
VST3... tastes just like chicken...
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Okay, I've just got done reading through the new SDK, reading the entire monster thread on the subject at KvR, and attempting (and failing) to build Steinberg's example code. (This is no surprise, because it is usually fucked beyond all recognition. Comforting, in a way.)

Let me state the following for the record, since if you're not a developer it may not be obvious: You, The User, gain NOTHING from VST3. This should be clear from the outset. The marketing points in the Steinberg press release are referencing shit that is included, almost entirely, in VST2.4. There is nothing in the VST3 kit that makes anything better, faster, stronger, lower CPU, lower latency, more likely to get you laid, anything. Don't believe the hype.

Take some time to get comfortable with that concept. Go ahead. I'll wait.

It is clear, to me at least, that this entire Switch rests firmly on what Ableton does. If they decide to support VST3 next week, and VST3 only (and there's no reason, historically, to suppose that they won't), then we'll figure this shit out in short order. If they don't, then Steinberg can go fuck themselves sideways, basically. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Of course, it isn't as cut-n-dried as that, but that's the basic feeling in the industry, at least among the people I communicate with. That said, and taking in to account my initial issues with the kit, it doesn't look to be that complicated of a process to port our shit to VST3. Not any more complicated than porting it to AU, anyways. So if we must do it, then it can be done. But as far as I can tell, there's no pressing need. None of our products will see any gain from moving to VST3, as we tend to design with a lowest-common-denominator feature set, as far as communicating with the host goes, so that we can build both AUs and VSTs from the same code base.

For what it's worth, through all the changes on the OS X platform in the last 3 years, we've had to do nothing on Windows. I suppose you don't get a free ride anywhere these days. I truly feel sorry for someone just getting in to VST development this week, though. They're in for a bumpy learning experience.

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Adam and CR - thanks for your comments on this.

It's frustrating to hear that PC users may soon be subjected to the same format and compatibility headaches that Mac users are (dare I say) used to at this point.

I'd love to future proof my setup. While I'm still in the ancient world of PPC processors, eventually I'll need to jump to the Intel Mac platform, and in the past year, have ceased to use (as much as possible) any plugins that won't upgrade or work on the new platform. That goes for audio hardware and other music utility apps, too.

All the chaos *has* made me more selective about which software I purchase and use. If I fall in love with something, does the developer seem like they're going to be around for awhile, and if not, can I live without the product down the road, or would I be willing to maintain a secondary setup (older computer + software configuration) to keep it going?

Then again, all that music I wrote in college on a couple of Alesis MMT-8 hardware sequencers hasn't exactly lived on - probably for the best.

posted January 20, 2008 by joshua_schnable

this kind of crap is why people put a hold on upgrades once they get system that works and is stable... or buy a fancy hardware dsp unit like eventide etc. or they go out and buy an mpc-4000


posted January 22, 2008 by boobs
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