November 7, 2007

Mental shootout...

by Chris Randall

Okay, it's time for a studio upgrade. The options are PCM96, PoCo X8, or Duende. Which to get? I'm leaning towards the latter, but could be talked in to one of the other two. Thoughts? Comments? Hate mail?

My reasoning for not immediately jumping on the PCM96 Love Train is that it doesn't appear the VST plugin part (the fun part) is available for Windows, nor will it be. The PoCo, well, it's a PoCo. Which is why I'm leaning Duende. I've wanted to score one for a while now, and I think now that they're a couple revs deep in the software, the time might be right.



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Nov.07.2007 @ 8:25 PM
Prism Sound Orpheus link []">link []

Nov.07.2007 @ 8:27 PM
I know it's not in the list but if your not droolin after it like I am ;well you should be;-)

Nov.07.2007 @ 8:35 PM
Uh, dude. PCM96, PoCo X8, Duende, Prism Orpheus. One of these things is not like the other.

Nov.07.2007 @ 8:54 PM
Chris Randall
I already have Apogee convertors. It would be something of a crossgrade / downgrade to go to the Orpheus, as well. So, no, I'm not drooling. At all.



Nov.07.2007 @ 9:29 PM
I'm assuming there's a reason that the UAD-1 isn't in the list. I can think of a few reasons why that might be the case, but I'm curious to know the real answer.

Nov.07.2007 @ 9:36 PM
Downgrade? Hmmm. I found the Dream converter amazing when I rented one to master a Jazz Audio DVD resently. It blew away my rosetta 800. From what their papers say it is the same audio signal , but with out all the bells and wistles for DSD. Lack of AES on the Orpheus is retarded move on their part though.

"Uh, dude. PCM96, PoCo X8, Duende, Prism Orpheus. One of these things is not like the other."

Actually, dude, none of these things are quite the same. A. reverb unit B. a little of everythin' C. Channel Strip ........... D. (my suggest. ) Converter.


Nov.07.2007 @ 9:37 PM
Out of curiosity why discard the powercore?

Nov.07.2007 @ 9:43 PM
mike kiraly
I have owned the Duende and currently own the Powercore (and have for many years) - both on OSX

I hated the Duende. Truly. And I wanted to love it so badly, but it just continued to break my heart. It was buggy, the firewire connection had to be on it's own bus to even think about working, and I didn't love the sound of the plug-ins. Now, to be fair, I have zero experience working on a real SSL console, but I really found that I already owned much better options for each of the bundled plug-ins.

The PoCo is employed in every project, but not for the bundled plug-ins, which I frankly have little use for. I use it mainly for the Sony Oxford stuff (which can now be purchased natively) and the 6000 plug-ins, which are beyond brilliant. The MD3 multi-band and limiter blow away any similar plug out there - at least in my opinion. Plus, the PoCo has been rock solid, even sharing a bus with my Firewire interface (an Ensemble) - I even had two chained together for a few years and never had a glitch even when they were maxed out.

Put one in the PoCo column for me.

*but in the external DSP world, I still heart UAD the best - the Neve plugs are nothing short of voodoo*


Nov.07.2007 @ 10:41 PM
From the three choices, I'd go with the PoCo for the same reasons.. dsp'd sony oxford plugins, the ported plugins from the 6000 and just about the only multi-band compressor that doesn't suck, the MD3.

Nov.07.2007 @ 10:43 PM
doh.. double post.. what the? dunno how that happened.

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