August 23, 2007

Another drop of Liquid...

by Chris Randall

Here's another little clip of Liquid doing its thing on a chunk of drums. 4 measures of dry (well, no Liquid, anyways) and then 4 of meaty flanged goodness.
You can hear the "OFFSET" parameter used to good effect in that little clip; that's what's causing the wide stereo imaging of the flange effect. (More obvious in headphones, of course.)

As far as dev goes, we're done with the VST versions, and Adam says he's about 2/3 done with the AU. What I take that to mean is "I have all the files and code in place, but I haven't yet begun to fight with this ridiculous SDK and any of the stupid changes that Apple has put in to it while we weren't looking." I could be wrong there; it's only been like a week and a half since the last build of Dr. Device, so how much could the AU SDK possibly have changed?



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Aug.23.2007 @ 2:23 AM
good grief that's yummy!

and a tasty little groove there also.. ;-)


Aug.23.2007 @ 2:50 AM
That loop sounds VERY Photek and Liquid still sounds damn good.

Aug.23.2007 @ 4:14 AM
Holy crap, that sounds good. Just the sort of flanger I've been wanting. The UI looks brilliant as well. Can't wait!



Aug.23.2007 @ 6:21 AM
Very good indeed.

Aug.23.2007 @ 8:00 AM
ahh.... you've just saved me a lot of time! I've been trying to build a good through zero flanger for the past week. I can give up now.. cos this sounds delightful!

Aug.23.2007 @ 9:26 AM
I'm buying it just to run it on cymbals.

Aug.23.2007 @ 9:33 AM
Is this true stereo or summed? Does that make a bit of difference? Is it a stupid questions?

This is going to be great for that Boards of Canada vibe I'm lusting after these days.


Aug.23.2007 @ 9:38 AM
beauty pill
Hey! I like Photek! No pickin' on Photek!

If you pretend that "Solaris" never happened (which I do, I do), that guy's a genius.

Anyway, more on topic, I'm SO psyched for Liquid. Seems like a really cool tool. I'm excited.

-- c


Aug.23.2007 @ 9:38 AM
Chris Randall
It is true stereo. As to whether that makes a difference or not, we didn't try it summed. However, utilizing the "OFFSET" control (which changes the relative delay times of each side) results in drastically different tonal quality, and even in the effectiveness of the flanger to do what it's supposed to do in the first place, so I'd have to say that a summed signal would be quite different than the stereo one.



Aug.23.2007 @ 11:01 AM
Adam Schabtach
qua: yes, give up now. :-) Obviously I'm biased but it's far easier to spend $29 than to get through-zero flanging working correctly.

puffer: To state what's probably obvious in retrospect: whether or not summing would make a difference would depend on the source material. We didn't try it because true-stereo processing seemed more interesting in this situation.

The 2/3 figure was sort of pulled out of the air. The AU version instantiates, puts up its UI, publishes its parameter info correctly, but doesn't make a peep yet. This one's pretty straightforward internally so I'm hoping that there won't be any nasty surprises ahead. Whether Apple pulled any fast ones on us will be revealed when I run it through the lastest version of auval.



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