August 14, 2007

Busy, Busy, Busy (Open Thread)...

by Chris Randall

Sorry for the lack of posting, but I have 26 plates spinning right now. So this is a Tuesday Open Thread. What's on your mind? Anything new on the horizon you're slobbering over? (Obvious candidates include Tenori-On and this new thing from Dave Smith.)


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Aug.14.2007 @ 2:05 PM
absolutely the new prophet!!! if it's really meant to be an affordable analogue poly for the 2008, i'm interested in what makes it really "2008". digitally controlled routings? that's absolutely necessary. but it's been there for decades. many interesting/unconventional mod sources, since they'll probably be implemented in the digital domain? check, also around for quite a while... i just can't think of a feature that will make it any "better" than any of the 80s big polys. total multitimbrality would be such feature, but it's already been told that the P'08 won't feature it. a shame. not a dealbreaker, but a shame.

also, i wonder if the voice architecture will be closer to the evolvers or the prophets? how many oscillators? multimode or lowpass? HOW WILL THE DCOs SOUND??

how much do new A6s go for nowadays?


Aug.14.2007 @ 2:33 PM
I hope you're working on another plug-in that makes me sound hipper than I am.

On my mind: how the heck do you get on this list and remain at large?

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Apparently shipping anything to these people is a crime, so if you sell something on eBay you'd better check this list before shipping your HR-16B. (This actually came up at work because someone in Haiti bought one of our audio interfaces, and we're supposed to check the list first.)

Oh, and the Prophet of course. I'll bet it sounds sweet.


Aug.14.2007 @ 2:56 PM
RE: the Prophet 08...
I'm almost 100% sure it will be 2 oscillators per voice. That's what the originals were and the Evolvers are also 2 analog oscs per voice.

As for modulation, they said it's going to have a sequencer (presumably the same one from the Evolver). They haven't elaborated too much more. I would hope they would more or less lift the Evolver's entire mod section and drop it in (obviously missing destinations that won't exist, like feedback, delay, etc.).

I'm interested to see what the filter and oscillators are like as well. The analog sawtooth on the Evolver is curvier than I'd ideally like - I'm assuming there will be a "true" saw for this synth.

On the one hand, this sounds like it could be what many folks (including me at times) really wanted from Evolver - a "modern" analog synth that has more than 1 voice.

On the other - who really cares? Is this really going to sound so much better than the soft synths and VAs that it's worth paying $2,000 for 8 voices?

I may just have to get one to find out!


Aug.14.2007 @ 3:02 PM
Adam Schabtach
I think what makes it "2008" is that you can walk into a store in 2008 and buy it. Or, putting it differently, it can be built with parts available in 2008. Lots of the chips that went into old poly synths are no longer available, so if your old Jupiter-8 or Prophet-5 dies, there's a good chance that it will stay dead.

Aside from that, I doubt that there will be anything really ground-breaking about this synth. It's an analog poly synth. Period. Some people get hot and bothered over such things. Dave probably got tired of watching old Prophets change hands for big money and decided to get (back) in on the action.



Aug.14.2007 @ 3:25 PM
I'm more interested in Tenori-On. One reason I didn't get the monome was that it required a computer, where as I would be inclined to use it in situations where I don't have a computer. So Tenori-On looks promising.

Except, the stuff I've heard out of it so far is pretty bland, generic synth drums and bass, 8-bit bells and pipe organy sounds. Word is that it'll sample, hopefully in a deep, useful manner and hopefuly there will be a way to upgrade on-board sounds beyond fey video game tones.

I'm also looking forward to (in a pipe dream sort of way as no such thing exists yet) someone hacking the Korg Kaoss Pad 3 with a new OS, something like the JJOS for MPCs. I recently got the KP3 because I figured it would be useful for live playing, which it will be, although the built-in programs and sampler could be so much better. The interface is excellent and really fast to work with, I just wish the effects and the sampler programs were of a higher quality and more flexible to use (for example, why is max feedback so low on the delays, and why can't you turn down the FX Release delay on the synth sounds?). So much more could be done with the XY-pad for sample playback than the poor sampler programs they have in there.


Aug.14.2007 @ 3:43 PM
Its all about the BoomChik, for me.

Aug.14.2007 @ 3:58 PM
To continue a rant from the previous thread:

Killing Joke is still the better band over Agent Orange because of their legacy.

Bands influenced by KJ (whether true or not): Metallica, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, System of A Down, Godflesh and really any other heavy-ish band.

Bands influenced by Agent Orange: Lots of skate punk bands in the mid 80's?

And regarding the Pro 8- i'm all for it. It's nice to see friendly synth competition that doesn't involve virtual analog for once.


Aug.14.2007 @ 4:39 PM
The Pro-8 is a great idea. The evolver is a tweaker's synth. It'll be nice to have a player's polysynth out there again (the Andromeda most assuredly isn't that). The Pro-5 was a joy to play live- hopefully the pro-8 won't be feature overloaded.

Actually the best synth I ever played, in terms of the experience of playing it, was the CS-60. I've never touched an 80...sigh...

Has anyone gotten their Eventide Time Factor yet? Comments?


Aug.14.2007 @ 4:44 PM
D' MacKinnon
I'm looking forward to the Boomchik but I think the Prophet 8 is just going to be a tweaked PEK with 8 voices. I already dropped the dough for a PEK so I'll just stick with that.

Aug.14.2007 @ 4:56 PM
Is the Timefactor now shipping?

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