August 1, 2007


by Chris Randall

Still recovering from the Meltdown. I'm repeatedly re-discovering things I've lost, to the point where I'm actually fine with the whole thing. I went and drove around for an hour listening to D.O.A. at top volume, and now it's just a matter of rebuilding.

In any event, Dr. Device is moving along nicely; obviously my time is completely and utterly divided between rebuilding my computer and dealing with first-day-of-sales fun viz. Dr. Device, so don't expect a whole lot out of me for the next couple days. (Side note: I'm posting this from the new iteration of Analog Industries, which will go up in a day or two.)

This is an open thread. Get it off your chest. Best band ever: Agent Orange or Killing Joke?



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Aug.02.2007 @ 8:26 AM
Isn't that apples and oranges? AO was standard Cali punk (not in a bad way) and KJ was that Joy Division-ish post punk that transcended into something much more styled. There are very few bands that leave you in awe when listening to their music.

Look what came out of KJ and their side projects- Murder Inc., Damage Manual, Invisible Records, Prong, Ministry, Youth, etc.

And 28 years later, they *still* sound as good as ever.


Aug.02.2007 @ 8:44 AM
Bloodstains pretty much cancels out any bad music they might've (did) make. AO for the win.

Aug.02.2007 @ 9:09 AM
Killing Joke

Aug.02.2007 @ 9:19 AM
Wade Alin
jesus h., am i the token Agent Orange guy? I saw them at a VFW hall in Phoenix like 20 years ago. It's been a no contest ever since.


Aug.02.2007 @ 10:02 AM
Both became irrelevant after the first Napalm Death album.

Aug.02.2007 @ 11:22 AM
This is probably the last thing you want to read right now, but a freind of mine wrote a great article about how to back up. It borders on paranoia (keeping one disk in a safety deposit box) but he makes his living on his computer so it's worth it for him.

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Not that I do any of this, yet. But it's in the plan. One of these days. Oh, I also want to buy a Furman power conditioner, probably right after I fry a vintage synth or something.


Aug.02.2007 @ 11:58 AM
Adam Schabtach
I don't consider that paranoid. All of the Audio Damage source code and related stuff gets regularly copied to optical media and placed in a safe-deposit box. All of the PCs (two for the two businesses, two personal laptops) back themselves up once a day to a RAID array on a fileserver. I've been looking for a good automated backup system for the Macs, so thanks for the pointer to that article.

I became "paranoid" about backups early in my programming career, during my first programming job. One morning I came in to work, flipped on my PC-AT clone (woo hoo! 12MHz CPU!), heard the Seagate drive spin up as usual, then immediately spin down, never to spin again. Everything on it would have been lost, except that I just happened to have made a backup (on 5.25" floppies) the night before. It was a sobering experience.



Aug.02.2007 @ 12:54 PM
professor ned
kj, duh. wade, i'm surprised at you.

although i gotta say, their recent output has been a bit worrisome. that dvd was pretty assy. and the mixing on that last album was TOTALLY assy. i heard some assy-sounding mp3s and thought "hey, that's a neat trick; leak your album, but mangle the audio first". then i went and bought the album and...wait, no, still sounds like shit.

the 2003 album with grohl on drums is pretty much untouchable, however.


Aug.02.2007 @ 1:06 PM
never got into killing joke. agent orange wins by default.

i did see killing joke once. it was a weird ass show.. at least for a 16 year old kid who got into the club w/a fake ID. i suspect everyone but me was on acid. it was 2 in the AM or something like that and all the lights were out in the club then all these people come from nowhere w/giant torches burning bright.


Aug.02.2007 @ 3:03 PM
beauty pill
Can't speak to KJ vs. AO. Don't know either music.

The following celebrity deathmatches happen in my house:

Steve Reich vs. Phillip Glass
Tribe Called Quest vs. De La Soul
Bob Dylan vs. Neil Young
Beck vs. Bjork
early Beatles vs. later Beatles
Arto Lindsay vs. David Sylvian
Marc Ribot vs. Sonny Sharrock
Blondie vs. Pretenders
American Music Club vs. Wilco
Propellerheads vs. Photek
Tricky vs. Massive Attack
Jeff Buckley vs. Fiona Apple
Pere Ubu vs. Wire
Fugazi vs. Sonic Youth
David Bowie vs. David Bowie vs. David Bowie
Derek Bailey vs. Nels Cline
Keith Jarrett vs. Bill Evans
Madonna vs. Madonna vs. Madonna
Henry Threadgill vs. Charles Mingus
Poor Righteous Teachers vs. Jungle Brothers
Lisa Germano vs. Sam Phillips
Jimmy Scott vs. Nina Simone
Pixies vs. Throwing Muses
Prince vs. George Clinton
Husker Du vs. Minutemen
Son House vs. Howlin' Wolf
Swervedriver vs. Curve


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