May 31, 2007

Dr. Device update and a little sound...

by Chris Randall

We've now got Dr. Device basically fully operational, and it's just a matter of tightening things up at this point. When I had put the movie up a couple weeks ago, the correct delay block (that is to say, the one from Dubstation) wasn't yet in the plugin. It is now, and everything is more or less working as we'd like. Here is an MP3 of the final working Dr. Device signal chain.

What you're hearing is thus:

2 Measures of MachineDrum by itself. (Any tertiary effects are coming out of the MachineDrum.)

4 Measures of same pattern through Dr. Device 4 pole lowpass filter, being modulated by the Kinetics.

4 Measures with the delay active. Left side is dotted 8ths, right side is 2x that. Mild regen.

So that should give you a fairly good idea of the general signal path of Dr. D. I'll put up something in a couple hours with all the filter modes demonstrated. First I have to work on full page ads for CM and FM.

EDIT: Here's another quick test of things. Same dry drum loop (more or less), followed by four different two-bar tastes of Dr. Device effects. Right now we're working on usability issues, and in order to do that, we have to learn how to use the plug-in. Hence, we spend the whole day fucking with it, then Adam and I discuss what needs to change, why, and how. Then we do it again. And again. And so on.



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Jun.02.2007 @ 2:04 AM
penzoil washington
RE: Discord. I didn't know that! I will check it out and if I like it I will buy it. I thought it was meant to be something like my late beloved MXR pitch shifter (which basically fell to bits), all wacky n' shit, but if it's more on the Eventide tip that's great.

No sepia, I just think the products have aged, that they just don't sound as good as the Oxford stuff, and yet are priced considerably higher for native versions. Waves L1, their most basic masher, is $400. I recently spent a couple dollars more than that for the Oxford Inflator, Limiter, and TransientModulator plugs, which sound a lot better, imo.

Everyone who pays US taxes is subsidizing a variety of armies around the globe anyway, one among several major beneficiaries being Israel. I'm not enamored of any particular country, just particular people here and there.


Jun.02.2007 @ 4:26 AM
Chris Randall
Yeah. If anyone is going to not buy Waves stuff because they pay taxes and all that entails, you should see what my tax bill bought. You basically need to live in a thatched hut on an otherwise deserted island and live on coconuts and sea urchins if you're gonna qualify your purchases that way.

That said, if this thread devolves in to political nonsense (I guess it already has) I'll be quite liberal with my use of the "KILL" button. So save yourself the trouble of typing if you're not typing about gear. I'm reminded of that dude that posted on OSX Audio that he essentially wouldn't buy Audio Damage products because I'm a loudmouthed democrat. Speaking of idiots.



Jun.02.2007 @ 5:31 AM
Bjorn Vayner
Hey Adam,

I know the bad experiences with the PACE system weren't that great in the past.
But the current version of PACE with max/msp isn't in anyway different from the copy protection system that a company such as Ableton uses.

Enter serial, get challenge code and send it to support or unlock online.
A little bit more annoying then just entering a serial, but still not worse then mosts systems out there.

I don't know about the Waves / Pace combo. But I don't buy waves products because of an old memory. I recall somebody from Waves pointing fingers at everybody but themselves about a buggy issue.
In the end, issues with Waves plugins and Ableton Live never got resolved. Every few weeks somebody will pop up complaining about something.
I'll take PACE over crappy support anyday of the week.

My point is: Your problems with Pace are only caused by the people who "use it wrong". I'm having no issues with Cycling 74, so no issues with pace. But your experiences may vary...
Its only the recent versions of pace that really don't suck as big as the versions we got before.


Jun.02.2007 @ 1:12 PM
Adam Schabtach
Bjorn: no disrespect intended, but you have no idea what you're talking about. I used to work for Cycling '74. I know what goes into creating a product that uses PACE. During that time PACE actually rendered a hard drive in my PowerBook unusable. PACE's response to us was "we thought we fixed that bug."

PACE's method may appear similar to the system that Ableton uses because they both use challenge/response, but on the inside they're totally different.



Jun.02.2007 @ 2:34 PM
Bjorn Vayner
Yeah, i was just talking about the experience being similar.
As opposed to all the horror stories I keep hearing about.

I have no doubt the systems are different on the inside.
Just wanted to point out that the amount of new horror stories seem to have decreased.

- B


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