May 11, 2007

Dr. Device screenshot and info...

by Chris Randall

Since it was pointed out that it was difficult to make out the UI of Dr. Device in the little movie I posted yesterday, here's a proper screenshot. (Click 'er for bigger.) If I've done my half of the job correctly, it should be fairly obvious as to what Dr. Device is all about. The left side is a multi-mode filter, and the right is basically a stereo tapped version of Dubstation. Signal flow is Filter -> Delay.

Full MIDI control, as with all our products. The light grey control is pre-wired to respond to the MIDI messages from a Kaoss pad, but otherwise everything can be assigned in the method common to all our products. (And, of course, Logic users are SOL, because Apple still hasn't seen fit to allow MIDI to insert effects.)

In any event, we'll be happy to field any questions or comments concerning Dr. Device in this here thread.



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May.12.2007 @ 8:23 AM
Continuing the earlier conversation about sidechaining:

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This page, and specifically this quote:
You might find additional buses helpful if you are building an interleaver or deinterleaver audio unit, or an audio unit that contains a primary audio data path as well as a sidechain path for modulation data.

would seem to indicate that the au standard already supports sidechaining, so a soon a the VST folks get with the program, you're good to go.


May.12.2007 @ 2:04 PM
Chris Randall
I'm not sure why we're talking about sidechaining, since it has nothing to do with this plugin. But as I mentioned, our products are limited to the lowest common features that Logic, Live, and Cubendo can understand and utilize. The _vast_ majority of our customers use one of those three hosts, so if Ableton drag their heels about implementing VST3 (not likely) or if there are features in VST3 that are not also in AU (also not likely) then we won't pay any attention to VST3 for the nonce.

None of our current product line benefits from having a sidechain input that I can tell, so it's not like we have to have a mad rebuilding dash. That is, unless Steinberg decides they're no longer going to support VST2.4 in their products (not unlikely, knowing them.)

And the one product that truly _NEEDS_ MIDI input on the AU side, Discord 2, can already accept a sidechain input in an instrument slot, so it is all doable.

To answer the two other questions:

RE: Price. We haven't discussed it, but it is almost certain that Dr. Device will be $49.

RE: Minion. It's interesting you bring that up, because I wasn't aware of Minion until last night. I couldn't tell you exact, as I haven't used Minion, but there are dozens of plugins with XY pads; apparently Minion is the only one where the control points can move by themselves so there are going to be comparisons.

That said, I think it should be fairly obvious how this is different. And if it isn't, so what? Just for fun, go try to download Minion from the Devine Machine page.



May.12.2007 @ 2:27 PM
LFO? The kinetics function must be one of the coolest set of LFO's I've ever seen :)

If you add gravity to it, it could even be a multistage envelope ;-)


May.12.2007 @ 4:55 PM
That is VERY cool. Looking forward to the release.

I'm not accustomed to criticizing your visual designs, Chris, but I agree that the text labels could be clearer--particularly in the upper section where the background is darker, and on the buttons. Your comment about the 1930's industrial/military-inspired design got me thinking about the sort of text labels on gear like Pultecs et al...I have no idea what the proper term is but it's that generic typestyle, machine-engraved and "filled" with white paint or enamel or something. You know what I'm talking about. Might be easier on the eyes while supporting the look of Dr. Device. It could work on the buttons too: You know how some button caps on older gear had numbers or letters molded (or engraved?) in and filled with could even replicate how they look after years of use, a bit worn and dirty...

Just making a couple barely-informed suggestions. You could change nothing on the UI and I'd still buy it.



May.12.2007 @ 5:01 PM
Chris Randall
That's good, because the UI isn't changing. ;-)



May.12.2007 @ 6:57 PM
Regarding the differences between this and minion, I can think of several before I've even tried Dr. Device:

- the balls can't be linked in minion
- nor can they be assigned to any parameter
- nor can they be thrown around
- minions balls each have three LFOs

Minion also has potential for up to 4 filters going at any time. And of course, no delay, which is different than slapping a delay on the end because of the shared modulation in Dr. Device. Vminion had many delays, but none were modulatable. Too bad Steve discontinued both, minion and Vminion are great effects untis.

So, other than both being a filter plugin with dots arrayed in a box, just on functional spec they are fairly different things. And that's excluding the difference in the actual sound of the filters, which is justification for a new filter any way.


May.12.2007 @ 8:12 PM
Wade Alin
>>Just for fun, go try to download Minion from the Devine Machine page.

that's some funny shit right there.



May.13.2007 @ 3:18 AM
Just saw the movie. That looks like fun. (That is an understatement.) Good work. (Also.)

May.13.2007 @ 4:42 AM
Bjorn Vayner
Depends on what you consider funny ;-)

You can still get it from the original developer.
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It looks like he's still working on vMinion, a plugin that was on my to-get-list.
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Dr. Device looks like it could fill that void.
The most exciting feature on minion was the combination of filters and saturation drive.
That looks like the difference between the 2 plugins to me.

>>Just for fun, go try to download Minion from the Devine Machine page.
>>>>that's some funny shit right there.



May.13.2007 @ 11:33 AM
Wade Alin
touche'! i'm obviously partial to the AD plugs, but it's good to know minion is still around/available. thanks for the info.



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