April 12, 2007

Federal Compressor...

by Chris Randall

Now, I very rarely link to eBay auctions from this site, because I'm of the considered opinion that eBay is a tool of our alien overlords, designed to keep the audio industry from being a viable means of supporting one's family.

However, in this case I'll make an exception, as one of these beauties rarely comes up for auction. This is a Federal AM-864/U compressor/limiter, totally gone through by Inward Connections, and useful knobs added to the front. This baby is full of techno, to be certain, and I think the price is right. If I didn't have to cough up a $12,000 check to the IRS this week ("the horror, the horror...") this would be coming home to daddy for sure.

Caveat emptor: I don't know this dude, don't know anything about him. I'm not vouching for the auction. But here 'tis if you have no fear of Alien Overlords or vindictive spouses.



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Apr.12.2007 @ 3:03 PM
I know, I know, the guy who records Coldplay loves this thing and all... but when I look at stuff like this:

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It is hard for me not to be at least a little skeptical of how great this thing sounds.


Apr.12.2007 @ 4:29 PM
Hi you got to remember,
this thing is at least 40-45 years old.

Look like other then Mods the tech guy didnt do much "cleaning"
or maybe he did the best he could,i figure these parts are long gone off production.

How exacly does this unit work? its not tube technology nor F.E.T by the look of it (and its transformers)


Apr.12.2007 @ 4:51 PM
Chris Randall
"It's not tube technology"? I'm not sure how you define the word, but there's a whole mess of glassware in that box.

As for the construction quality, it looks pretty much the same as any 40s-70s point-to-point box inside, with the exception that the caps are obviously new. If you have a problem with gear that looks like that inside, you're going to have to rule out a pretty large swath of equipment, like any non-solid-state amp Fender and Gibson ever made, for instance.

But that said, I could give a flying fuck about what anyone having anything to do with Coldplay has to say about anything at all. I've used these, and can speak from experience that you'd have a hard time finding a smoother comp for voice or bass.



Apr.12.2007 @ 5:17 PM
Many audiophiles ONLY do point to point!

geofex: point-to-point vs PCBs
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Apr.12.2007 @ 5:26 PM
I don't know what you're griping about RexRhino. That's a nice tidy textbook point to point wiring job if I've ever seen one-- the kind of thing audiophiles drool over. The fact that all of the caps, and it looks like even some of the pots, have been replaced is just the icing on the cake.

Apr.12.2007 @ 6:46 PM
In highschool electronics class we used to have to repair a lot of old electronics constructed point to point... Perhaps I am judging based on my experiences with using old consumer electronics (vs. high end studio or audiophile electronics using point to point), but I am skeptical. I am suprised that half the electronics worked back in the 1960s. I am suprised more people's houses didn't burn down in the 1960s. Those things were just aweful. Hand soldered birds nests of wires and components and crap.

I know what the experts may say, I am not calling them liars. Intellectually, I know they probably are right - if they didn't know what they were talking about they wouldn't get to their position. But just looking at that old point to point construction, and how it has aged, and I am skeptical. Every experience I have ever had with this kind of stuff tells me differently from what the experts say.

Audiophiles might like oild point to point construction - but auto buffs love old Rolls Royces and Jaguars, but they don't perform any better than a Toyota.


Apr.12.2007 @ 6:54 PM
Chris Randall
They may get you from point A to point B the same, but you'll look and feel a fuck of a lot better in a Jag than a Celica.



Apr.12.2007 @ 8:18 PM
How about an Audio Damage take a la the Reverence, Phase Two, 914?

Apr.12.2007 @ 8:46 PM
Chris Randall
Long story short: if we said "this here plugin models this vintage tube compressor accurately," we'd be lying through our teeth because there is simply no way to model tubes in the digital realm with any sort of accuracy. I could poop out all kinds of math to explain why it is effectively impossible, then I could amaze and confound you by saying "every tube a piece of gear has beyond one raises the math exponentially" because not only do you have to model the tubes, but you have to model how they interact with each other.

_ANYONE_ that says "this here plugin models this piece of tube gear accurately" is lying, to put not too fine a point on it. It may sound pretty good, and it may be quite usable, and it may act the same, but it _DEFINITELY_ doesn't sound anything like what it is a model of.

We'll stick to modeling solid state and digital gear, thank you very much, since we can get close as makes no difference, and we don't have to lie.



Apr.13.2007 @ 3:53 AM
Ah it is tube based,
They were hidding in the picture :P

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