April 7, 2007

Ian lays down the slap...

by Chris Randall

I have to be honest and say that while I admire and respect the concept of Fugazi, I'm not a huge fan of the actual thing. This video, in which Ian MacKaye cuts loose on the Washington D.C. city council, goes a long ways towards explaining why I can make the above statement. It might be handy to read the backstory to provide some context for his comments. Having played the Black Cat and the 9:30 many, many times, I do have a certain feeling for the city and what he's talking about.




Apr.07.2007 @ 1:55 PM
Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing it.

Have you heard his newer work in The Evens? It's fantastic. I'm a huge Fugazi fan, but a lot of my friends who don't like Fugazi think The Evens are great. Definitely check out their self-titled before the new one, "Get Evens"


Apr.07.2007 @ 2:37 PM
Wade Alin
how he did that without cursing, i'll never know.


Apr.07.2007 @ 4:37 PM
i'm a HUGE fugazi fan as well. fucking love those guys. I guy i know booked a fugazi show in miami (more than 10 years ago now) and said they were pretty straight forward people. no bullshit to deal with. he said he heard Ian talking on the phone about an upcoming gig and having to set someone straight about some issues and he didn't curse then either...

but yeah..you can see the emotion welling up in him in this video. I guess playing your guts out at shows all the time helps people stay calm in situations like this?

this law sounds knee jerk and dumb and of course is being written by people who are totally disconnected from any real perspective.

i used to go to a club in ft lauderdale that became essentially a rave on friday and saturday nights after 3am and they'd play music until around noon. at 3AM it became all ages because they weren't allowed to sell booze after 3. it went for a couple years until it eventually just go out of hand and got too much attention. i don't know what that has to do with this thread but it just popped into my head.


Apr.07.2007 @ 5:25 PM
Apparently, around here, we should not have security guards in clubs because they get stabbed.

Also, while not an across the board Fugazi fan, there was some good stuff on "The Argument"

How much longer is it going to be before Politician becomes an synonym for moron? (That is assuming it hasn't happened already).


Apr.08.2007 @ 12:46 AM
Goddamn. This same stupid shit is happening in Boston; someone under 21 got shot after a club night so a city ordinance was issued stating that venues have to be 21+ or the event has to end before midnight. Of course, neighboring Cambridge is under no such rules, and the venues there are better anyway. But it's only getting worse in this Puritan town: a few weeks ago, someone was shot after a house party, so another ordinance was issued, this time against house parties that have a cover, DJs, and booze, with hundreds of dollars in fines as punishment.

Apr.08.2007 @ 3:11 PM
beauty pill
My band Beauty Pill is signed to Dischord, Ian's label, and I am a huge admirer of both his principles and the intelligence/dexterity/passion with which he goes about implementing them practically in the real world. In my opinion, Ian is one of the great thinkers of the late 20th century. I say all this because Ian and I are well-known for debating --- I disagree with a few of his ideas about artistic process/aesthetics/technology, economics and culture --- but my esteem for his integrity and value system is absolutely the highest. I love him with all of my heart.

I can tell you that Ian puts his money where his mouth is. His value system extends to how artists on his label are paid: my royalties are 50%. The artist makes half, the label makes half. This is pretty much without equal in the world of record labels. So for every record my band sells, we make half the wholesale price. We get quarterly royalty statements with fair and accurate accounting. Dischord is the "cleanest" label you could ever hope to work with. Its functioning structure is pure, visible, and carefully considered.

This shit with the council is totally insane. And it's a good example of how a government can grab ahold of a bad idea --- or a merely a frightened one --- and bring it to bear on the wrong people in the wrong way. Happens every day in small and large ways.

--- Chad


Apr.09.2007 @ 9:17 AM
I am big fan of MacKaye as well. MacKaye, Art Monk, and Mitch Snyder were my holy trinity while growing up in DC. Anyway, Jim Graham is not a moron, but in fact a respected and thoughtful politician. He is not a musician, and doesn't see things their way. But in the end, he sat down with Dante Ferrando (owner of the Black Cat, and drummer for Ignition) and others and hashed out a bill that really isn't that bad. Check it out: link [www.washingtonpst.co...]">link [www.washingtonpst.co...]

Note that the video and Post article posted above are from Jan or Feb.


Apr.09.2007 @ 9:37 AM
"i used to go to a club in ft lauderdale that became essentially a rave on friday and saturday nights after 3am and they'd play music until around noon. at 3AM it became all ages because they weren't allowed to sell booze after 3. it went for a couple years until it eventually just go out of hand and got too much attention."

The Edge? Orbit? :D


Apr.09.2007 @ 11:36 AM

While I pretty much agree with Ian MacKaye on this issue, I think he wasted a perfectly good opportunity to actually make a point by going on with his ranting.

The argument he should of made is that if you don't allow teens into legal, licensed clubs for shows, they are going to go to unlicensed, unsupervised underground events that will most certainly put them at even more "risk".

This guy's speech was terrible. It is hard to believe he entertains people for a living. He should have way more charisma and public speaking ability than that as a self-proclaimed music "legend".

Also, all-ages shows aren't altruistic. All ages shows make more money, if it isn't for politically manufactured expenses like liquor licensing and liability insurance. Not only do you increase your potential audience, but kids spend more money on merchandise because they aren't spending their money drinking. It is not like bands get a cut of the bar profits (at least not in the part of the universe I am from).


Apr.09.2007 @ 6:03 PM
I think Ian made the very best point that anyone could make on this subject when he said that if the bullet hadn't hit a teenager it would have hit someone else. This should have been a gun issue from the beginning. Whoever determined that the age of the victim was the problem, rather than the existence of a victim being the problem is at least responsible for poor judgement if nothing else.



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