March 28, 2007

Vacating...

by Chris Randall
 

I'll be out of the office until Sunday. Adam is leaving for Japan tomorrow, as well. So things will be pretty quiet around here for the next couple days. In that vein, this is an open thread for Messe announcement discussion.
 
 
 

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Mar.28.2007 @ 8:59 PM
mike kiraly
I kinda wish the Moogerfooger announcement wasn't an April Fool's Joke. I probably would have bought it. :)
 
 

 
Mar.28.2007 @ 9:35 PM
Jaysen
Moogerfooger an April Fool's joke? Those Moogerfuckers.
 
 

 
Mar.28.2007 @ 10:55 PM
Gibbon
Gotta love the Kore 2 press release "Includes 500 presets covering all relevant musical styles and genres." So if you can't use a preset in your music, you are irrelevant.

They got rid of the audio interface portion of the device, which is cool but I still don't have a clue what the hell I'd use it for.

 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 12:05 AM
Chris Randall
You and me both, kiddo. Kore has been explained to me several times, including at least twice directly by NI employees, and I still don't have the faintest idea what it does.

That doesn't mean I can't understand what it does, of course. What it means is that every time it was explained to me, I promptly forgot. Or to put it another way, the information didn't actually merit enough import to be placed in permanent storage. NI has made some excellent products, but I'll stand by my statement that if I could remember what this thing did, it may very well be one of them.

-CR

 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 7:22 AM
RexRhino
Not so much for you Chris, because you won't remember, but for others.

Basicly Kore is a universal system for searching and organizing patches between different NI products, standardizing knob tweaking between NI products, and an excuse for a big phat hardware dongle. It does a little more than that, but basicly that is what it does.

It seems to me that if you are a professional studio guy, working for non-professional clients, that Kore would be an indespensable tool, because you can search NI patches by genre and sound, and give your client that "full of techno" sound they desire. And, you will always get the 4 most tweakable parameters to knob twiddle a bit with.

Or, if you are a laptop musician, that knob-box/audio-out/software-dongle all in one thing actually seems like a very handy device to have for live performance. While an electronic musician probably won't be searching patches based on genre and timbre because they will be creating them from scratch, the features of Kore cannot hurt.

Basicly, Kore is fantastic if you are already a NI user, it is kinda cool if you are a laptop performer, probably not very useful for everyone else.

Like all NI stuff, I would buy it if it was priced in the Audio Damage level of pricing, but I have a hard time shelling out hardware prices for software.

 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 10:42 AM
shamann
"Like all NI stuff, I would buy it if it was priced in the Audio Damage level of pricing, but I have a hard time shelling out hardware prices for software."

Buy it second-hand. I got Reaktor 5 in a software swap (I traded it for Symptohm, which I got in a group buy and never really used), and Battery 3 for $75. That said, I, too, am completely baffled by Kore. I know what it does, but I still have no idea why anyone cares.

Coolest stuff I've seen coming out of Messe:

Waldorf's Blofeld and Stromberg - Look even cooler as real hardware than the renders that have been floating about. Especially Blofeld, judging from the blade-like body it is sporting, I reckon it might weigh less than 2kg.

MFB Drum computer: I'm always inclined to get one of the MFB things as an impulse buy, as I like gear that's the size of a paperback book. Only wish I knew some folk who actually owned any of the MFB modules, so they could attest to any build quality problems. That plastic they use does look pretty cheap.

That's about it for me. What happened to Apple/Logic? And did Akai really need to put out another MIDI controller, this one with drum pads and a keyboard? And what exactly are Steinberg thinking with that Sequel thing?

 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 10:51 AM
RexRhino
<i>Only wish I knew some folk who actually owned any of the MFB modules, so they could attest to any build quality problems. That plastic they use does look pretty cheap.</i>

Yeah, I am tempted to do a slightly humorous old-school acid side project, with just an MFB analog drum machine and MFB analog synth in place of the 808 and 303... but I have never met anyone who used an MFB synth first hand who can comment on the quality. From the pictures, they look like they are using off-the-shelf PVC project boxes that you get at the electronics surplus store.

 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 11:43 AM
shamann
Just saw a picture of the new Boss Space Echo pedal. Why does Roland have to make everything so ugly?
 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 12:31 PM
RexRhino
I think its cool that they are remaking the 201 Space Echo, but I think they should have made it in the form factor of the old one... If I didn't see it in context (on a website saying it was a faithful imitation of the 201), I would think it was another generic boss guitar pedal and would not have given it a second glance.
 
 

 
Mar.29.2007 @ 12:55 PM
Niall
One or both of these units can be seen at the Sonic Core booth {presumably where John Bowen's Soloris is on display}:

link [www.brainworx-msic.d...]">link [www.brainworx-msic.d...]

I've heard these for Creamware's Scope platform, and think they're boss. I'd love to see more of their analogue counterparts.

 
 

 
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