March 1, 2007

Some more C4 impressions...

by Chris Randall

Now that I've had a few days with Cubase 4, I'm ready to offer up some considered opinions. In no particular order:

1. They took out Quadrafuzz. ZOMGWTF? And DirectX plugs are gone. This is a minor annoyance, but really, they're DirectX, so who the fuck cares?

2. The new synths pretty much suck ass. Note to Steinberg: go buy a copy of Logic, look at all the included synths, and rip them off. Seriously. The new synths actually suck _more_ than the old synths, IMO. I think someone from Native Instruments consulted on the note priority of the polyphonic ones, because it's just as odd as their stuff. Maybe I'm in the minority, but when I play a four-note chord, I kind of have a hard-on for all four notes playing. Or at least the same three playing consistently.

3. Stability and CPU usage in general is down quite a bit. There are notable exceptions; the amp simulator plugin rocks my CPU to the tune of 30% or more. That's a little bit unnecessary, I think. But in general, it feels firmer.

4. I feel like they reworked the audio engine a bit. I can't honestly give any empirical evidence in this regard, but it sounds _tighter_ to me, and the summing is a little bit less murky. I A/B'd the same project in Nuendo 3 and Cubase 4, and the summed result definitely sounded a bit clearer and tighter in C4. This is purely subjective, of course.

5. I like the preset browser for the VST3 plugs. I also like the new export window, and most of the other bells and whistles that comprise the majority of the upgrade. I still haven't tried the Studio Manager thingy, so I can't speak to that.

In general, I feel that C4 is a step in the right direction. No major problems to report, and it seems happy in Vista.




Mar.01.2007 @ 11:21 AM
Apparently the new synths were done by Virsyn, who tend to make synths that leave most but their devoted fans rather perplexed over what all the fuss is about.

Mar.01.2007 @ 11:35 AM
Adam Schabtach
I kinda like the Virsyn stuff, so maybe that explains why I kinda like the C4 synths and CR doesn't.

Further evidence that we shouldn't build soft synths: we'd never agree whether or not they suck.



Mar.01.2007 @ 8:20 PM
Quadrafuzz is available if you go look on the CD/DVD for the "earlier plug-ins". I forget the exact name, but all the old ones are in there (including the UV22 dither and the old synths)

The new plug-in present business is a good idea, but not totally dialed in yet. It's way too hard to categorize stuff right now, and the windows look like ass (and not the sexy kind).

Synths...I don't know yet. I wasn't blown away by any of the presets, but they didn't make me cringe the way say, VB-1 did. Maybe after I do some programming, but why waste time there when I could be tweaking the Evolver or something out of Reaktor?


Mar.03.2007 @ 8:08 PM
Hate to sound like a chest thumper here, but it always seems like Performer, Cubase and ProTools users are constantly pining for all the neat things Logic does (and yes, the built in synths rule, I did most of my record with ES2 and EXS24).

There's a really good way to gain that funtionality... USE LOGIC.

(not a paid endorsement... the one thing I hate is how the support went out the window and price went through the roof when our friends at Apple took over).



Mar.04.2007 @ 10:33 AM
penzoil washington
Personally I don't use softsynths or ITB summing, but by all means use Logic if you don't like decent fader resolution or automation, and you don't mind what's said to be the worst summing of any DAW.



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