August 29, 2006

Hmmm...

by Chris Randall
 

Okay, I'm working on Analog Rack V2, which will replace my (now gone) Blacet modular in stage performances for knob twiddling and stuff. I decided to build it around Moogerfoogers, because they have nice big knobs. I'm using one of those SKB flip-up 12-space things that all the Serge folks use, because it is convenient for my purposes. (Like so.)


I've only just started building, and I've reached an impasse of sorts. I've got the Moogerfooger LPF of course, and I got the ring mod. The rack unit that Moog sells (and which I just received today from Analogue Haven) holds three of the little fuckers. The question is: which one do I get for the third slot? The choices are MURF, phaser, and analog delay. That should be an easy choice, except the delay costs twice as much as the other two, and live I'll almost certainly be using Dubstation for all my delay needs. So, I'm really thinking either MURF or the phaser.


Any particular reason I should get the phaser instead of the MURF? I can't think of one off the top of my head, but there's a lot of people reading this blog that own one or both of these pedals, and who might have some insight in to why one is more appropo than the other.


To satisfy the obvious curiosity, the other things the rack will have are fuzz, distortion, compressor (all handmade by me), a CP251, a small mixer/router, and AES->analog->AES. I _may_ add a MIDI->CV convertor so I can give the pedals some presets, but I haven't decided for sure about that yet.

 
 
 

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Aug.30.2006 @ 11:27 AM
dagosto
I think the MuRF is the coolest of those three pedals. Especially if you have a stereo setup. Synch can be fine tuned using a foot pedal but you won't get perfect match (part of its charm?). Some of my co-workers and I did a podcast where we played with all three of these pedals a while back. Maybe it will help you make your decision:

link [www.gearwire.co...]">link [www.gearwire.co...]

 
 

 
Aug.30.2006 @ 4:01 PM
Niall
MuRF. Even the static preset imparts a pleasing character to the sound, but things get really interesting and butta-smooth when you adjust the rate of the sequenced filters and realtime control of the amplitude envelope over a timbre that's dynamic in the time domain. I've mostly lost interest in realtime knob-tweaking, m-m-man, but putting a V-Synth behind a MuRF is an excellent way to regret not recording everything you do at all times.

Et voila. Instant Parmegiani.

 
 

 
Aug.30.2006 @ 11:44 PM
Aenemone Carbuncler
FWIW:
the only phaser i've ever liked is the doepfer a-101-3! vactrols, and fully patchable.... endless non-phaser sounds add that and some of of the bbd modules to your rack and you'll be happy! and the A-101-2 is very cool a dirty borg lpg!
 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 12:33 AM
Chris Randall
Shit. By the time I bought all that, I might as well have got something actually useful. Seriously, that shit needs Infrastructure. The damned rack costs more than the Moogerfooger.

-CR

 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 8:07 AM
gashoagie
i also got the murf when it out. sounds great but also fairly limited . The overdrive on it is nice and the preset rythms at different tempos and the eq can yeild alot of difference. However anyone that has used a MURF will instantly recognize it. I usually run mine directly into a sherman filterbank II and get some great results. Its a module you can become easily bored without a little creative planning.
 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 8:24 AM
space_monkey
if it were my rig, I would get the moog control voltage processor instead of either of those. you could use it to do a lot of really cool stuff with the other pedals, especially with the s&h generator.
 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 10:35 AM
rabbitcrvshd
I'd have to agree about getting the control voltage processor - surprised it didn't come up until page 2. I think what is being alluded to with all of the 914, phase two, etc refererences is that by buying a 'black box' like the MuRF - you wouldn't really leveraging the modular advantage that hardware (still) has. Personally that's what I like about hardware (even if it means the expense of sound quality) but I don't know what your Blacet experience was like.
 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 11:05 AM
Chris Randall
Don't I say in the original post that the rack will have a CP251 regardless? Oh, yes, right here:

"...the other things the rack will have are [...] a CP251, a small mixer/router..."

It's already part of the plan. I think I'm just going to man up and get the phaser. Mainly, I want to fill the spot for looks. I'm quite happy with the ring mod and filter, so I figure I can't go wrong.

-CR

 
 

 
Aug.31.2006 @ 12:56 PM
rabbitcrvshd
oops - i blame my limited attention span. that and I forgot the control processor isn't the same size as the rest...

to add something useful - i've used the MuRF quite a bit and I think that for your purposes (live use) its usefulness would be limited. As flexible as it is its not something you want to use over and over in every song.

 
 

 
Sep.01.2006 @ 9:06 AM
space_monkey
sorry about that. I'm an idiot, and I didn't realize the cv processorr was called "cp251"
 
 

 
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