August 18, 2006

The Monster Dub...

by Chris Randall

I can't tell if Rozzer and n-Fuze are taking the piss out of the current slew of "watch me make a beat on an MPC" videos, or trying to get in on the action, but this is by far the the best of the bunch, both musically and visually, and worth a watch. Since this video also describes how I spend my day (sans MPC, of course; can't stand those boxes) I find it interesting from a process perspective. It's always cool to watch someone that knows their shit work.



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Aug.18.2006 @ 8:11 PM
That is what I hate about all this production "shit".....some guy tapping his MPC........and everyone in Comments - WOW ! That is cool !

Ain't COOL !


Aug.19.2006 @ 12:21 AM
CR thanks for that link, I was genuinely entertained by the video and the music was kinda fun.

I'm not gonna opine on which equipment is better hung or what style of pop is this or that, but I will make my token objection that I cant see what the hell any of that what I just watched has to do with "dub". I damn well object to the modern day corruption of that there word whichn I hold so close to my heart.


Aug.19.2006 @ 1:19 PM
seriously? whenever i hear a harmonica, the first thing i think of is dub.

Aug.19.2006 @ 2:06 PM
Chris Randall
Back before this recent interest in comically emulating Lee Perry's production "techniques" (theoretically without setting your studio on fire in protest), a dub was just a track without vocals, or some silly delay on the snare, and you could do it to any track. There's dubs of most of my early masters, where we'd get done doing the proper mix in all its forms (vocals up +2db, TV mono, TV stereo, blah, blah, blah) and then we'd have some fun before we zeroed the board, cleaned the patchbay, and started the next song.

Nowadays, the word "dub" has taken on a new meaning to indie hipsters, but to those people that worked (and still work) in studios with analog consoles, it means the same old thing: fooling about. In that light, the track in the video is perfectly named. I can't speak for Rozzer's intentions when he named it, of course.



Aug.19.2006 @ 3:17 PM
this pretty much sums it up
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Aug.19.2006 @ 5:44 PM
Chris Randall
Now, _that's_ funny.

Is all this current crop of "watch me make a beat" videos a result of that scene in Hustle & Flow, do you think?



Aug.19.2006 @ 11:34 PM
CR: OK thats kinda truthy, and yeah theres alot of crap out there which is little more than overfunded kids worshiping the golden calf of the Roland Space Echo and kicking a guitar amp to get a Tubby-esque snare, not to mention all the assembly line dub albums which seem to be a manditory after compnonent of all RAS album releases.

But to call everything done since LSP burned down the Black Ark comic emulations pretty well discounts the work of alot of good mixers, those whithin the reggae scene and without. I'm pretty darn sure you are familiar with Adrian Sherwood, you may or may not know of Scientist, Jammy, Mat Professor, Jah Shakah or others who pushed the genre forward. As for the indies stuff, well Jack Dangers, Bill Laswelll and others have done records well outside of reggae but still within dub as a sound.

If what "they" say is true and without the screwing around in a studio aspect of dub being the parent of remix then yeah I agree with you about Rozzer's production technique: taking one set of sound elements, adding & subtracting to get a different final product. However IMNSHO remix != dub. Sure I'm being pedeantic about this, but well, thats just me.

Switchonoff: Thanks, now I dont have to bother digging around youtube to see if there are any better MPC videos, that one summed it up quite nicely.


Aug.20.2006 @ 12:10 AM
Chris Randall
You're just splitting hairs now, as you certainly knew what I meant when you wrote that. When Sherwood/LeBlanc/Clail/et al were at their best, it wasn't called dub. It wasn't called anything at all. It was just what those guys made; as I said, a hyper-inflated reinterpretation of Perry's techniques. You know as well as anyone that an entire subgenre has been created out of a remix technique, so saying that dub != remix is technically correct in 2006, but in 1996 or 1986 (or 1976, for that matter) it most assuredly wasn't.



Aug.20.2006 @ 12:25 AM
Yeah but I think the hair needs splitting. About != you are right, but I stand by my point. Is a "discomix" a dub mix? etc. Also about Sherwood & al. I was thinking more of his reggae work (Dub Syndicate, African Head Charge, Creation Rebel, Bim Sherman, etc) than the tack>>head thing tho the tack>>>head stuff kinda begat a whole nother genre in and of itself and Sherwood becoming in demand as a remixer probably contributed to the general understanding of dub as remix.

I know I'm fighting a loosing battle with this and most people will never care anyways. Heck it aint just the indie/remix crowd, they are small, but now the hiphop and car freak crowds use the word as well for totally other stuff. I should probably just resign my post in the Rasta Anti Defamation League and get back to making music.


Aug.20.2006 @ 12:41 AM
Chris Randall
Shit. You don't have to tell me twice. I've made a pretty good living for the last year off of naming a plugin that takes advantage of one single (albeit omnipresent) aspect of one sub-genre of music.



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