August 5, 2006

A little story 'bout Reverence...

by Chris Randall

You might recall a few weeks back when I asked for a front panel photo of a Lexicon 200. Much speculation ensued, both here and at KvR, about the nature of such a request, and what it might mean. Of course, it's now known that most of you were right, and the next Audio Damage product is indeed "inspired by" the Lexicon 200. It is called Reverence, and a screenshot is above. Click the image for a full-sized one.

It isn't an exact clone of a Lexicon 200, or any Lexicon 'verb, for that matter. It is a modern (and thus more usable) rendition, for the 99.9999% of us that don't earn our bread and butter doing Scritti Politti mixes. It has that same thickness of the early Lexicon plate simulations, without the brittle overhead or the noise. Obviously, it runs at modern sampling rates instead of the 11kHz neck of the woods that the original ran at, so it has significantly more headroom. That said, I think Lexi 200 owners will be happy with the result.

It will be US$39.00. We're just finishing up the Windows version, and will start the OSX versions this week. I am hesitant to give an actual release date, but ads for it start running at the end of the month, so it would be wise for us to have it out in August. We're not going to rush it out, though, so there's a chance we'll slip a bit. Unlikely, but I'm obligated to mention it. We'll be happy to field any questions or comments in this thread.



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Aug.06.2006 @ 10:18 AM
Chris Randall

1. No.

2. No.

3. Yes.

4. No.


1. Maybe.

2. The reason there aren't any is because it is basically impossible to do in software.



Aug.06.2006 @ 2:02 PM
very cool. looking forward to this.

Aug.06.2006 @ 5:06 PM
Very nice! Looking forward to hearing it.

I am also looking forward to new versions of Ronin and Deverb. Any chance these in the pipeline...? I love Ronin but the VST-wrapped faux AU I have to use is pretty squirrelly. Not that I don't love seeing more new AD products...but don't forget about polishing up the rusty old tools in the back of the drawer...



Aug.06.2006 @ 6:28 PM
Chris Randall
The porting of Ronin to VST2.4 and UB VST/AU is a monumental task. We released it before we wrote our compatibility layer that allows a plugin to be either AU or VST; thus, it is a major undertaking, on the order of re-writing it, basically. I work on it here and there, but it's a slow job.

As for Deverb, it will be ported to AU and VST2.4 shortly, and given a facelift to match Discord 2.



Aug.06.2006 @ 6:45 PM
That's great news. Except the part about having to virtually rewrite Ronin. That pretty much sucks.

Well, just know that there are some of us out here who are cheering you on and eagerly awaiting the results. Ronin is really powerful and musical and it'll be awesome to have an updated version.



Aug.06.2006 @ 9:12 PM
I also want the cat fur version. I can never ever get enough cat fur.

Aug.07.2006 @ 8:37 AM
whoah, can i get the stand-alone cat fur mod?

Aug.07.2006 @ 4:24 PM
I'd really like to see a demo of the cat fur mod before buying. If the individual hair movement isn't realistic, I'm out.



Aug.07.2006 @ 6:31 PM
Adam Schabtach
One of the interesting things about Lexicon reverbs is that they _can't_ be completely reproduced with IRs. They have subtle modulation stuff going on that an impulse recording won't accurately capture.

Reverence has similar modulation, but I haven't yet taken any IRs of it because, like, why bother? It's lighter on the CPU than any IR-based reverb, so taking IRs of it would be kind of silly.



Aug.07.2006 @ 6:45 PM
Chris Randall
In reading through this thread, it occurs to me that I forgot to answer Aahzekiel's question, which was:

"Would you consider Reverence an all-around go-to reverb, or something more suited for use as a distinctive effect?"

That's really a matter of taste. I'm still experimenting with where it works best, in order to plan out how we're going to structure the presets. (It's worth noting that before we inflict a plugin on the public, we have to try and anticipate every possible use it could be put to, and plan for it, both in the presets and in the manual. Invariably, we miss something.)

In any case, in my experimentation, I've learned that it follows the usefulness patterns of the older Lexicon plate simulations almost exactly. That is to say, on drums, it might be a bit too big for normal use, unless you're going for that particular effect. Using the HF rolloff and RT contour controls, you can tame it quite a bit, and I've succeeded in creating what will be my standard send reverb for years to come. (It's also worth noting that my personal favorite setting for any of our products is usually the first preset, with the exception of Dubstation, where I stupidly put 1/8th note delays when I meant to have dotted 8ths in the first preset.)

For vocals and guitar, it, like the Lexi plate model of yor, is absolutely fantastic. For horns, it might be a little bright, truth be told. But for female vox, male vox, guitar, and if you're crazy like me, bass, it makes a great send 'verb. People tend to avoid using 'verbs as inserts these days, since they generally take so much processor. Reverence is quite light on the CPU, as far as algorithmic reverbs go, so I've been forming some thoughts on to insert presets, as well, since some people may use it in that stead, and fuck if it doesn't have a mix control anyways.

All that said, it is definitely a 'verb full of flavor. I'll get some sound samples up this week, so you can see what I mean. I would liken it most to the Princeton 2016 Stereo Room plugin: it might not be useful for every possible situation, but what it is good for, it is _really_ good for. Quite frankly, I'm having a hard time coming up with a scenario where this _isn't_ worth at least 3 times what we're charging for it, if not more.



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