December 25, 2011

Happy Holidays!

by Chris Randall

Normally, someone like me who is non-religious (I don't choose to use the term "atheist" because it implies actively disbelieving in something, which is in and of itself a belief) and who is decidedly left-of-center politically would be stumbling all over himself to provide a "Happy... something!" that is both completely ecumenical and entirely secular.

This is a difficult task, because you have to take in to account the "reason for the season," which (aside from the axial tilt of the planet) is essentially Judaeo-Christian in basis, plus the amalgamation of Christian, pagan, and modern inventions that comprise "Christmas," plus all the made-up recent shit (the Wiccan iteration of Yule, Kwanzaa, et al), plus real Atheists who get all prissy if you even imply that the modern version of Sinterklaas and the Baby Jesus have anything at all to do with the fact that it is late December. (I've actually heard someone utter the following phrase with righteous indignation: "First of all, Jesus was born in the summer.") Did I leave anyone out? Oh, Jews and Muslims, who have their own fucked up shit all wrapped up in words like "tradition" and what-not, but which conveniently fall close enough to the Christ Mass to cause all sorts of headaches. Cthulhu only knows what the hell goes on over in the exotic Orient.

So you know what? I just ain't gonna bother. It's Christmas. Have a good time! Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and the best for your endeavors in the year to come, no matter where you are or what you believe!


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Dec.26.2011 @ 4:45 PM
Chris Randall
@Nostradamus: If you read your initial response, then my response to that, then what you just wrote in a row, you'd rapidly come to the realization that between the two of us, we said the same thing three times.

That said, you're just arguing semantics at this point, which you know as a long-time reader of this site is a fruitless endeavor with me. You know exactly what I mean, and you're just trying to get me to type it in a fashion that is more, what, correct? My patience with this sort of conversation withers rapidly.


Dec.26.2011 @ 5:51 PM
let's just...

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Dec.28.2011 @ 6:14 PM
I'm an atheist. In fact, I'd argue that i am a quiet atheist, in that Ive never felt the need to argue my position, since at the end of the day, i dont give a fuck what anyone else chooses to believe or not believe in, really. I mean, what ever makes you happy....

But religion is so damn touchy for people, especially here in TN. Maybe that's why the only atheists I've ever met here were also quiet, too ;)

Dec.29.2011 @ 6:14 AM
"I'm an atheist. In fact, I'd argue that i am a quiet atheist, in that Ive never felt the need to argue my position, since at the end of the day, "

Some years ago this was an important topic for me. I also spent some years trying to find answers to questions about believing and non-believing, the (non-)existence of "god" etc. I read books, I discussed with theists and atheists and so on.

So what Chris calls a semantic arguing is in fact a thoughtful way of arguing caused by lots of experiences I made with discussions like that. Especially theists try to turn around the meaning of nearly every word if that suit them (this is especially true for those who are trained in rhetorics), they tend to argue in a very fuzzy way which makes it nearly impossible to nail them down to a certain standpoint. Hence my demand on an exact language, as far as possible. Back then I sometimes wished that language is as logically clear as math.

Dec.29.2011 @ 2:25 PM
"Language being clear as math" would certainly help, wouldn't it?

And yes, there was a time I did my own research into God- it was prompted at the time by me being an Agnostic who was in the process of marrying a Mormon gal. Ultimately, that led me from having an Agnostic position to calling myself an Atheist.

Dec.30.2011 @ 6:43 PM
What if a black hole is the Universe's way of sterilizing itself of life.

Maybe one day we will have a microscope so powerful that we can see ourselves looking through the most powerful telescope.

When I wake up and am actually a butterfly will I remember how much I hate cucumbers?

If I post a comment on a blog post that is 6 days old will anyone read it?

Hope you had good Christmas. Have a great New Year!

- Hugo

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