July 20, 2011

OS X Lion Bullshit Thread...

by Chris Randall

I am in the process of installing Lion right now, and will update this post throughout the day with my findings. If you're in a mission-critical situation and you're updating your main working machine to Lion, and you have problems, you only have yourself to blame, and I have no sympathy for you. Let me take the pain, so you don't have to.

9:24 AM About halfway through the download; it is coming slow. I've seen quite a bit of anecdotal evidence about major issues, but the only actual report I've seen from a major audio dev is Native Instruments, who say this.

9:43 AM Ableton just posted this. Still downloading.

10:33 AM Downloaded. I'm waiting for Time Machine to finish its snapshot before installing, though.

11:33 AM Running Lion. The fucking trackpad scrolls the wrong way. FUCK!

11:57 AM Did a first round of tests with Live. If you only use VSTs, it seems to work okay. If you use audio (loops, clips), MIDI, or AUs, it crashes almost instantly.

12:11 PM Just did a quick test of Max/MSP 5. Loaded two patchers. One was just DSP, no samples, no externs, no VST~. The second had all three. No problems whatsoever with either one.

12:22 PM Just ran a simple test in Cubase 6 64-bit with all 32- and 64-bit AD products and some audio files. Works fine on cursory examination. No problems to report.

12:43 PM Ran a cursory check in both 64-bit and 32-bit Logic. I ran 64-bit first, so it scanned all our 64-bit products, and everything seemed to be fine. I then ran the 32-bit version to scan the 32-bit products, and BigSeq (the original one) and Ricochet both failed AU Validation. A few other AUs failed as well, notably FM8. Other than that, Logic seems fine, although I am in no way a power user of that DAW like I am with Cubase, Live, and Max, so while it seems fine, that should in no way be taken to mean that it is fine.

1:35 PM Did a short examination of DP 7. I don't understand this DAW, which is the single most left-brained piece of software ever written. (I don't have a left brain. At all.) I was able to instance every AD product, though, and all seems fine. There is a hiccup in the audio when opening/closing windows, though. This is across the board. It would rapidly drive you insane, I think. Otherwise, it seems okay with the caveat that I wouldn't really know if it was fucking off beyond the obvious.

1:57 PM Checked energyXT. It seems to be fine. Also did a quick check of MIDI Network Sessions for Audanika, and that seems to work as usual.

Fin. I went through every DAW and plug-in I have, and on the whole, everything seems fine. Logic has some pretty big issues, which isn't surprising considering Logic is lucky to not have big issues on a normal day, let alone when OS X gets a version rev. Live is the most surprising, as it usually gets through these pretty painlessly.

Conclusion If the hub of your digital music recording environment is Cubase 6, Max/MSP 5, DP 7, or energyXT, you're in good shape, and shouldn't experience any trouble. If you use NI products, expect an interminable round of Service Center updates (more than usual) but as long as you're not 64-bit, things seem to be okay. If you use Logic, you can probably make it through your working day. If you use Live, don't update to Lion. Period.


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Jul.20.2011 @ 12:25 PM
Mike Nickel
So being a dev, how many instances of Windows and OS X do you have?

Jul.20.2011 @ 12:29 PM
Should we expect a 'Fucking Lion' tweet in the future? ;)

Jul.20.2011 @ 12:30 PM
Chris Randall
Just one on each computer. I have several computers, though. (9 in all, or 10 if you count the Apple //e, which I most certainly do.)


Jul.20.2011 @ 1:02 PM
no Lion for me.. not even with a ten foot poll.

Jul.20.2011 @ 2:25 PM
BTW you can change the trackpad scroll direction in the system preferences.

Jul.20.2011 @ 2:46 PM
Chris Randall
No shit.


Jul.20.2011 @ 2:49 PM
I may do the update on my MBP just to see what there is to see. The studio computer will happily stay on 10.6.7 until Avid/Digi release a version of PT that runs on Lion (hate that I have to have it on there at all, but that's my job, so...).

Jul.20.2011 @ 2:55 PM
Chris Randall
I kind of like it otherwise. Mail.app is slicker. The "Launchpad" is a fucking godsend. It finally turns the Dock in to something, like, useful.

Everything looks a little flatter, which is nice. Was getting tired of all that bling.


Jul.20.2011 @ 3:06 PM
I need to figure out where it grabs 'apps' from for Launchpad. I seem to have 'Apps' in mine that shouldnt be there (because they arent installed on my computer anymore).

Jul.20.2011 @ 3:07 PM
@ungeheier - sounds like they installed a part of windows there.

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