June 17, 2011

More Update News...

by Chris Randall

Okay, we've now put new installers for Replicant and Eos in the store, in addition to Panstation. If you were experiencing any problems whatsoever with getting 64-bit versions of our plugs to validate/instance/whatever, on all three platforms, these updates should sort you out.

Another thing that is worth mentioning, since it is contextual: I just got an email from the AU group at Apple informing me that Lion will be fucking up 32-bit AudioUnits. They mentioned Tattoo and Ricochet specifically, but I imagine that they didn't do a thorough test, and whatever problems those two have will be endemic to our entire product line. This makes the 5th time, if I'm counting correctly, that an OS X update has totally crapped all over the AU kit.

I also don't know what other manufacturers will be affected, but I can certainly guess and say "most of 'em." So if you rely on 32-bit AudioUnits, and are, say, in the middle of a mix or something, updating to Lion should be very, very low on your list of priorities, at least until Audio Damage and other manufacturers have had a chance to put things through the ringer and figure out what's fucking off where. This is, of course, good advice for any major OS update, but naturally most people will ignore it. So when you install on the first day, and find out that Lion fucked up your music shit, you can refer to this blog post as an official "I told you so."


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Jun.18.2011 @ 3:44 AM
mad ep
Like just about everyone here - I never update till I have a VERY comprehensive reason.

OS? 10.5.8
Live? 7 (and I used 4 up until I updated to 7)

In fact, I don't even buy new production models of computer either. I usually wait till a new laptop is launched and then I buy the previous model - not just because the price drops an insane amount, but also - because that is just around the time they finally got all the bugs worked out of that model.

etc etc..

Once I get something running smoothly, I don't mess with it...cos I just don't have that sort of time.

Jun.18.2011 @ 10:13 AM
I think it also bears repeating that there's no reason (unless your DAW cannot use VSTs, or a VST version is not available) to use AUs. Chris made this point awhile back, and I think it's a smart approach to minimize the use of AUs whenever possible. It's not as wonky as say, relying on something like a Pluggo runtime, but there are times (like this) where it feels like that...

Jun.18.2011 @ 8:06 PM
What I really don't understand is the all the hype around Apple computers in the music biz. I use a lot of plugins from different developers and I see lots of complaints about non or not correct working AU stuff in lots of forums, most of the time compatibility issues. I'd never buy an Apple system, that's for sure.

Jun.18.2011 @ 8:45 PM
I'm pretty sure my opinion counts for shit, but I'm with Nostradamus.

Jun.18.2011 @ 9:55 PM
Whatever works for the user, bottom line.

Jun.18.2011 @ 10:17 PM
Whoo! a Windows vs Mac debate! Finally.


Jun.18.2011 @ 11:04 PM
Chris Randall
I ain't gonna debate shit. I'm a Mac user. There are 5 current Macs in this house, along with an Airport Extreme, two iPads, 4 iPhones, an iPod Touch, and three normal old fashioned iPods. I'm also a PC user. My highly tuned music PC runs Windows, and I do all my development and UI work on it.

I will say that when it comes to business, and especially B2B, Apple are a bunch of fucking assholes. They always have been. They'll steal your shit or put you out of business at the drop of a hat if it suits their own moodswings, and they regularly change APIs up just to keep indie devs from resting. Microsoft are, by comparison, really fucking cool the few times I've dealt with them in B2B scenarios. Everyone's always going on about Microsoft being a bunch of greedy corporate pricks and Apple being the cool California laid-back hippie types, but the people that say this don't actually have any business history with either company. I do, and I'm here to tell you that the opposite is the simple fact of the matter.


Jun.18.2011 @ 11:55 PM
i use both though prefer mac. ever since audiomulch went mac friendly my PC sits still as a statue. i miss a couple plug ins but not enough to go back to the windows machine. i used it once 6 months ago.

prefer mac for all the 'lifestyle' apps. itunes, iphoto, media library type things.

both PCs i have used for music were super solid. the win2k pro machine was ridiculously crash proof but was never hooked up to the internet.

the thing w/the windows machines that always bugged me was peripherals.. anything USB would only work in certain USB ports. it was bizarre and i never understood why. thumb drive works in 1 of 4 ports.. mouse worked in a different one and so on. there was always a certain amount of OS tweaking and set up to get things to function smoothly.

but there's nothing you can't do on either OS. people use what they are comfortable with or suits their work needs better.

Jun.19.2011 @ 12:35 AM
Chris Randall
I'm with boobs.

Jun.19.2011 @ 4:46 AM
do you know this pretty, little story of steve jobs and the death of one of the nicest mp3-players:

link [panic.com]

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