October 7, 2005

AES: Toft 8-buss console preview

by Chris Randall

Well, truth be told, I don't know if this is actually _at_ AES, but the Toft fellows said they'd be showing it there. (Just wait 'til winter NAMM, because I'll actually be there, and thus won't be sitting here typing out my ass all day.) In any case, this is something you don't see coming down the pike every day: an analog 8-buss console.

Toft is generally accepted to be on the low side of high-end, or on the high side of middle-end, depending on who you ask. That caveat aside, this console is gonna smoke. It is a true 8-buss, and is available in 16, 24, and 32 input frames. It also has a digital option for FW, AES, and ADAT. Nothing I can find says whether the ADAT and FW are both I and O, though. Well, never mind that; this is an ideal front end for your DAW, especially if you have a lot of keyboards (see my rant earlier.) The best part? The price. It has an MSRP of $2495, which means a possible street price of under two grand.

It's also worth mention that Toft is part of the PMI Audio Group, which includes JoeMeek. In conversations I've seen online, folks from Toft have mentioned several times that Joemeek will be introducing the Meekser next year, which should be a nice little mixer for not a lot of money. Something to look forward to for NAMM, I guess.




Oct.07.2005 @ 7:44 PM
i really love the look of this board. i was eying an older trident for my next board but i think this is a better way to go with older tridents having some serious maintenance issues. with this based on the 80B eq, it is very compelling just on the EQ front ($125 per channel). even if if the digital IO pushed the street price up to around $3k, it would still be about as much as I was considering for ADA alone (Lynx AES plus Aurora).

my preference of course would to be able to route the out of the firewire to the channels rather than just traditional returns.


Oct.07.2005 @ 7:54 PM
Chris Randall
Yeah, I can't help but wonder how they're gonna do that. But for the Trident EQ and the Toft-designed mic pres, the price is definitely right. Use 8 channels on the input of your DAW, and 8 as four stereo stem returns, and you've got a hell of a nice system for not a lot of money. Obviously, the reviews will need to be forthcoming, but just judging on what I've read so far, Toft hit one out of the park with this bad boy.



Oct.07.2005 @ 8:43 PM
Trident VFM, anyone?

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I wonder how it compares. VFM's are pretty rare, especially in the US, but they have a pretty good reputation, especially for the money. The trick is finding one. :)


Oct.07.2005 @ 9:00 PM
Chris Randall
Yeah, but...

A) It's a vintage Trident, which means nothing but trouble.

B) No digital I/O.

C) It is about 3 times the size of the Toft.

If something new sounds as good as something old, I'll take the something new every time.



Oct.09.2005 @ 12:25 AM
i just want a high quality 8-channel 4-bus.
the Soundcraft 200 series is all I've been able to find.
but I don't even need the EQ. is that too much too ask for?

Oct.09.2005 @ 1:33 AM
Chris Randall
You might want to take a look at the Studer 169. An under-rated console, mainly used for broadcast work. I've seen these in 8- and 12-channel configurations with a 4-buss.

Otherwise, yes, it is too much to ask.



Oct.09.2005 @ 8:10 PM
thanks Chris.
so, is the Soundcraft 200B worthy? or maybe I should get a Speck or wait for the Toft... sorry, I spend all my money on the fun stuff-synths!
so, sadly I do cut corners where I shouldn't, a new module is just so much more exciting to me for some reason.
honestly, I gave a couple years ago and just use the Tascan FW-1884 as my mixer/I/O, but with modular stuff it still clips way too much..



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